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ILM:
Fall threads on the I Love Music forum
Why
does anyone like the Fall?
This question might've been posed before, but there are too many
threads to sort through so Im just aking it. They just sound like
rubbish. Granted all I have is This Nation's Saving Grace and the
Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall, but I just don't see it.
I've heard nothing but wonderful things about them, but when I sit
down to listen to them, all I hear is an unrehearsed band with a tone
deaf lead singer, and absolutley no hooks. I'm not a bubblegum
pop-purist by any means, but their appeal eludes me. Is there just
something wrong with me?
Are
The Fall the most overrated band in the history of
music?
Why, oh why have The Fall been allowed to get away with churning out
horrible, unlistenable, tuneless drivel for over twenty years? Is one
of the qualifications for a job at either Melody Maker or NME the
ability to fawningly praise anything Mark E Smith does? If he put out
an album of himself vomiting into a series of different shoes I am
sure it would be lauded to the fucking hilt. This madness has to
stop...now.
TS:
The Fall vs. Pavement
I'm kind of surprised this hasn't been done, and I'm interested to
hear opinions on this one. Go at it.
POO
-- The Fall
Trolling for suggestions actually as my Fall collection is meager.
From what I've heard I'll take "Hit the North Pt. 1"
Thread
to post DAILY miscellaneous questions/comments/musings REgarding: The
Fall
You don't have to like them - you just have to understand why they're
cool.
Say what you will about the Fall ....
What
are the best 10 Fall tracks of all time
then?
I reckon:
1. Fortress/Deer park. 2. Jawbone and the air rifle. 3. Carry bag
man. 4. Prole art threat. 5. Container drivers. 6. Hip priest. 7.
Free range. 8. Frightened. 9. Cab it up. 10.=Wings, Winter, The
classical, Glam racket, R.O.D. Leave the capitol, Kicker conspiracy,
Totally wired, Big new prinz, Underground medicine, Oh jesus.... so
many great tracks, I could name hundreds, in fact if I did this
tomorrow it would probably be totally different.........what a
band.......best in the world mate.
Fall
(post-1985 / compilations): Search &
Destroy
Stupid me, my first exposure to the Fall was that 2-CD B-sides
collection - OK, but a bit much. I liked _Wonderful &
Frightening..._ & _This Nation's Saving Grace_ fine & good,
but when I got ahold of _Early Years_ & _Hex Enduction Hour_
(& _Hip Priests..._, which is a bit redundant), I was blown away.
And _The Marshall Plan_ (their 2nd-to-last album?) is pretty good,
too - reminds me more of the old-skool Fall than their mid-80s
stuff.
So, what else would you folks recommend?
best
Fall album for starters
Help me out. I've decided to take the plunge. I've downloaded a
sample platter spanning many different years and I really like all of
it. Where should I begin?
Early
Fall - help me make a definitive C90
I've always wanted to make this tape. 'Early' means pre 84 (this is
fairly arbitary but I think they moved into a different phase when
they signed to Beggar's Banquet). Here's my stab at it. I don't have
all the records, so please tell me what you reckon are the glaring
omissions. There's a kind of limit of 24 tracks.
OPO/POO:
The Fall
Pick Only from The Fall-uh.
I'm going with "Cruiser's Creek," as I've never shaken that signature
riff from my head since I first heard it all those years ago.
so
i just saw the fall
i am not an educated 'fall' fan. so i just saw the fall at the
hollywood knitting factory. the sound was bad, the riffs were
repetative and didnt always hold my interest and i couldnt understand
a thing mark e smith was saying and he didnt move around at all
except to fuckwith the musicians amps. however,it was really good and
fun! my question is this: has it always been like this?
The
Fall: Pick Only Ten
It had to happen...
I'm
going to see the Fall this Friday...
I've never seen them, and I'm psyched. I haven't heard anything past
"Extricate," though... I'm not expecting to hear any of my faves. I'm
ready to be belatedly seduced into the Fall '90s-'00!
The
Fall vs Motorhead
The first house I lived in in London was near Camden Road overground
station, it was owned by a Russian emigre and everything was painted
bright orange and light blue, except the ceiling which was purple and
had glowing stars on it, there were oddly-shaped windows everywhere
and abstract patterns on the stairwell, downstairs lived a barmaid
who disappeared soon after her stalker was cabbaged by a brick thrown
off the railway bridge. Mike Leigh bought the house for nothing for a
film set ('Career Girls') and evicted everyone, what a working-class
champion. Fucker. I suppose the ppl this house represented were too
far beneath the waterline even for the likes of him. Y'know, the
green-teeth end of Brit-hippie, where everyone has one arm and a
clapped-out BSA, houseboats, gravelly speed, Kestrel, peasant skirts
that collect mud. Dogs, dogs, DOGS. Fuck I hate dogs. They scare me
and they just seem so undignified, boot 'em in the mouth and they
blame themselves and come back for more, just like hippies themselves
I guess. ......
Fall
Covers
which are your favourite and least favourite cover versions recorded
by The Fall?
Radiohead's
"Creep" vs The Fall's "CREEP"
sorry to burden you with this, but it is late and i am drunk and i
have never ever understood why the fall are not held in the kind of
esteem that radiohead are, except x10. i see what "creep" is trying
to do (quiet - then loud - how inspired) but "CREEP" still gets its
hooks into my head and makes me involuntarily smile. um, am i alone
in this ?
Is
is just me or does the Fall's "The Classical" sound exactly like a
Pavement song?
Ive heard the comparison between Steve-o Mack and Mr. Smith before,
but the Classical is the closest sounding. The voices are almost
identitical, the song structure, everything about it
Im not alone, am I?
they
sound like the fall...
but 'they' never do. so many bands seem to get the 'they sound like
the fall' thing (guess this is same as VU/stooges etc in that other
thread). but what bands actually do 'the fall sound' justice?
i can only think of The Male Nurse, who i thought were (are?) a great
band, and approximated that grubby fall82 thing very well (but they
were sort of, well, camp too). i think its a shame the male nurse
never really got any props, have they packed it in now?
do you agree re: the male nurse? and have any other bands succeeded
here?
The
Fall CD reissues
A lot of the Fall CD reissues on Cog Sinister have been badly
mastered, sometimes from scratched vinyl copies. Does anyone know if
this is the case with the "Live At The Witch Trials" CD?
The
Kinks vs The Fall
Imagine being stuck in a lift with Mark E Smith and one of the Davies
brothers
Is
the Fall's 'Bill is dead' the most romantic song ever
written?
Or is it's strength in revealing that legendary grouch Mark E Smith
is just a pussycat after all?
Article
Response: The Fall
First-time FT contributor Michael Flack reviews the new Fall album.
Cool. Any comments?
Fall
US Tour Cancelled
God Dammit:
The
Fall's "Free Range" vs Wire's "Ahead"
vs the first five seconds of Rolling Stones' "Heartbreaker"
Have
I been too hard on The Fall?
Frankly yes. Upon further examination most of my arguments appear to
be motivated by a personal dislike for Mark E Smith, based only upon
transcripts of interviews with hacks, and occasional radio / tv
footage, all of which have been edited according to some agenda or
other. And wishing to start a Smithesque rant at some of my bosses at
work. Which is surely a spurious basis for disliking someone. On
reflection, and given my recent re-evaluation of his work over the
past two days I concede that many of your points are valid, and The
Fall have made no small contribution to music. I cannot, however,
find any praise for his taste in jumpers though.
THE
FALL - "Are You Are Instant Winner?" (new LP) Did anyone hear
it?
THE FALL - "Are You Are Instant Winner?" (new LP) Did anyone hear
it?
Yup! That's the way they spelled it.. Did anyone hear it? I love "The
Marshal Suite" and "Levitate". Their last on "The Unutterable" was
decent but not mind-blowing.. How is the new one?
Taking
Sides: Todd Rundgren vs. Mark E Smith
Mean streets of the Lower East Side = (Birmingham School of Business
School (Dean: R. Wood) = Langley Virginia) = (Gotti v. Giuliani/
Liddy v. Agee)? Except Liddy was in the FBI, imagine the tableau,
somebody burning themselves with a candle sitting across from Hoover
in his fishnets, saying "They were watching goddamned WATERFALLS in
there. Waterfalls!" "Relax Gord. One day they WILL put a statue of
him up in Milbrook. This rat salad is rather good!"
c/d--Mark
E Smith "Pander Panda Panzer"
Stunning avant-poesy or noisy irritating crap?
Brix
Smith
Did she add anything to the Fall and was her own band, the Adult Net,
of any merit?